he was involved in environment in many ways. fact they're both serious birders. hey go actual around the world looking for species they haven't notebook e and have a of different things they've seen. the carter presidency has been ranked by historians for the environment i dy roosevelt and nixon, is right up behind them in most of the environmental both of them have a great respect fortunate and outdoors. watching from greenville, indiana. you're on. caller: hi, how are you? >> very well. what's your question. caller: what was the reaction of carter and first lady he lost the election to ronald reagan in 1980? >> okay. thank you. story fast forwarding our but what was the reaction when they lost the '80 campaign? mean, they were devastated. you know, i don't really know to that.dd do you want to take that up? devastated. y >> the election was not close, so, until the last week or the polls showed it was an open race. realized before election it was coming, and it hard. she is very candid if you read her memoirs she doesn't try to about p how she feels things and